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this restaurant says, in eight months it's been opened, it's not had a single reported case of food poisoning. >> about there have been scandals of the four people died at a different restaurant chain two months ago after eating spoiled raw beef, prompting this sushi restaurant to take raw beef off sits men you are. american matt hible says he's still not worried. >> there's odd things about japan, raw meat is only one of many. so you just localize yourself, go native a bit. >> reporter: why not? fellas, have you seen how many girls are in this joint? cnn "newsroom" continues right now with t.j. holmes. >> thank you so much. we are seconds away from seeing the position of the units stepping into the briefing room.
as you may know, the many has been busy with meetings over this debt ceiling. we're told unless it's raised by august 2nd, all hell will break loose on the economy. at least that's what many people will have you believe. nobody wants us to go without raising that debt ceiling. the president said he wants to make comments. here he is. >> hello, everybody. i'm going to make a brief statement. i completed a meeting with all the congressional leaders from both chambers, from both parties. i have to say that i thought it was a very constructive meeting. people were frank. we discussed the various options available to us, everybody reconfirmed the importance of completing our work and raising the debt limit ceiling so that the full faith and credit of the
united states of america is not impaired what we decided is staffsally with his as leadership will work during the weekend. i will reconvene congressional leaders here on sunday, with the expectation that at that point the parties will at least know where each other's bottom lines are, and we'll hopefully be in a position then to start in engaging in the hard bargaining that's necessary to get a deal done. i want to emphasize that nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to. the parties are far apart on a wide range of issues. again, i thought all the leaders came in a spirit of compromise, in a spirit of wanting to solve problems on behalf of the american people. everybody acknowledged that the
issue of our debt and our deficits is something that needs to be tackled now. everybody acknowledged that in order to do that, democrats and republicans are going to be required in each chamber, everybody acknowledged that we have to get this done before the hard deadline of august 2nd, to make sure that america does not default to the first time on its obligations, and everybody acknowledged there will be pain involved politically on all sides, but our biggest obligation is to make sure we're doing the right thing by the american people, creating an environment in which we can grow the economy and make sure more and more people are put back to work. i want to thank all the leaders. i thought it was a very constructive meeting. i will be seeing them back here on sunday. a lot of work will be done between now and then.
all right? the president not taking questions, not necessarily breaking a whole lot of news. if anybody had their fingers crossed that a deal would be reached, that's not going to happen, but the president saying things were constructive. still, a key part, saying nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to, saying the two sides are far apart. as you know, the backdrop to all of this, the country needs to or has to -- or i should say congress has to raise the debt ceiling by august 2nd. we're told that's the hard date before the united states will not be able to pay its bills, essentially. that would be a first. by that day, literally the next day, the country would not have enough money to pay all of its bills, the president xwringing both sides to the white house for discussion. it has wrapped.
he said they will come back on sunday. the staffs will continue to work throughout today, tomorrow, the weekend, but then on sunday, he will have the leaders back. he said at that point the parties will know where each other's bottom lines are. brianna, hello to you. the president we heard he was going to be coming out so make there would be news to be made it sounds like that they still are a long way apart. >> reporter: that's exactly what he said. i can also tell you, though, talking to sources on both sides, they didn't expect a deal would be reached coming out of this meeting. i think we saw the president striking an urgent tone, trying to show that work is being done, that they're working to come to a compromise, and let's be honest, this clock is ticking.
i think we're getting into the nerve-racking time where people and the markets are starting to wonder when are these differences going to be bridged, especially what we saw over the last couple of weeks, a seeming standstill or impasse over tax increases that democrats wanted and republicans were saying no to. now, i have to tell you, we just heard at the top of this briefing after the president spoke, t.j., the white house press secretary jay carney said he wasn't going to do a readout of the meeting and there's actually a commitment on the parts 6 these eight lawmakers and president obama, not to get into details. we've heard the white house say before they don't want to jeopardizes the progress on the discussions that they're having, which, t.j., they don't really have an agreement at this point. >> remind us, brianna, what the president has been saying. he said he had confidence something could be ironed out. we know this hard august 2nd deadline, nobody wants to get to
that, but going by the president's timeline and what he's said, when would he like and what is reasonable for us to expect a deal to be made? >> reporter: he said the other day, t.j., he wanted something done in a couple weeks. that would put us somewhere around july 20th, something like that. there's no guarantee that they're going to come to an agreement by then. something we do know, that president obama and house speaker john boehner have been discussing, is actually a much more ambitious deal than was discussed a couple of weeks ago when the biden talks dissolved. that is a plan for about $3 to $4 trillion in deficit savings over the next ten years, democratic sources telling us that. a republican source telling me this would butt associate security, medicare, medicate, all of the entitlements on the table along with tax reform. can you imagine? that's biting off a whole lot.
it's possible, i'm told by this republican source, that some of this might not get done by august 2nd, so there would obviously need to be something built into negotiations if this were -- at least part of this were to move past august 2nd, certainly to get the dead ceiling raised. no guarantee they'll get it done. >> brianna keilar from the white house, we appreciate you as always. we are going to move on to a couple other big stories we've got going on today, one of them being casey anthony will walk out of jail a free woman in six days. now, you hear that, and think back to 48 hours ago. it was at this time tuesday that casey anthony was facing the possibility of life in prison, maybe even facing the death penalty. what a difference 48 hours makes, because today she is counting the days until she walks out of the jail a free woman. she is counting down to six. you know by now, casey anthony was acquitted of murdering her
2-year-old daughter caylee, but convicted on four counts of lying to investigators. just before sentencing, the deceives tried and failed to reduce down to one. here are the four counts. lying about working at university studios, liking about caylee being with a nanny, the fick tick zanny you heard solve about. and lying about speaking to caylee on the phone. this morning, the judge melvin perry gave her the maximum to each of those counts. >> i will sentence you to one year in the orange county jail, xwokting a $1,000 fine on each count all four counts to run consecutive to each other,
giving you credit for the time that you have previously served. >> okay. it wasn't so cut-and-cried. it got complicated here. so here we go. we know anthony has been locked up for almost three years, but inmates get extra credit for good behavior. so in casey anthony's case, that apparently worked out to about 112 days. she's set for release on july 13th, six days from now. after all of that, she'll still be headed back to court. here is why. a woman by the name offa naileda fernandez gonzalez -- that's the name that casey gave, is suing for defamation. the state of florida wants her to repay the cost of investigating the disappearance and death. equusearch is considering a suit to recoup the expenses to search for caylee in july of 2008.
let me bring in martin savage for us. he was in court today. he's been covering this for us. a lot of people were scratching their heads. she got the maximum, and sheets still going to be walking out in six days. >> reporter: he threw the book at her. the only problem is he didn't have much of a book to throw. once she had been found not guilty of 9 three main charges, she was left with the four misdemeanors. as you so clearly pointed out, once you do the math, essentially she'll go free next wednesday. it could be anytime after wednesday, tuesday night. all the way through the day, there's no particular time. quite frankly the deputy's office -- or actually that's the department of corrections for orange county, will probably 23409 be announcing when she will go free. they already stated there would be extra security measures she wouldn't be walking out of a door per se, that they would probably release her somewhere
within the community. we anticipate a member of her defense team would whisk her away to points unknown. as far as the demeanor inside the courtroom, i'm sure you saw her, t.j., she looked very different. she literally had let her hair down. that shows you, what a dramatic difference from when she was sentenced two days ago to the atmosphere today. she had a much more relaxed appearance. her hair was no longer in a tight bun where it had been since the beginning of her trial. it was clear to many that she thought she would get out today. she was all smiling, she was chatting to people, and then once she heard that, no, it's not going to be today, stone-faced. we saw that face of hers close down again, her family quickly left. they were in the courtroom as well. so that's pretty much how it played out down there. out here, there were protests, but they fizzled pretty much, only a handful are left, t.j. >> that was the first thing
people commented on, the hair was down, you could tell the demeanor had changed completely. maybe she did think she was about to walk out of jail today, but still she doesn't have to wait too long. martin, we'll check in with you again. thank you so much. well a couple big stories we are following. the other big story, a major british tab bloi is being shut down, as a result of a massive phone hacking scandal. those details are here for you next. stay with us. [ female announcer ] the healing power of touch
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all right. in less than 24 hours, we will witness history. we think. the final launch of u.s. space shuttle "atlantis" is supposed to take off -- i say supposed, because you can see in this live picture they've got some weather issues right now in florida. we don't know if weather will permit tomorrow. still everybody has fingers crossed. a crew that everyone is calling the final four. our own john zarrella caught up with the final four to see if the astronauts are truly aware of their place in history. >> reporter: you guys will be the last shuttle flight. what's going through your minds? >> kind of like being at disneyland. am i going to get to the front of the right before the ride closes? or will i get cut off at the end? i thought, wow, i kind of squeaked by, and to realize this probably would be the last
mission ever, it felt like an honor to be a part of it. >> we want to make sure we get the job done. when the job is done, we can look back and reflect, think about where the place in history lied for this final flight. >> the crew getting the last looks at the space station complex. >> we've got more transfer and logistics supply to send to the station more than we ever had on any other mission. we're very busy in training. it's very challenging mission. >> reporter: you represent thousands of workers for 30 years who have poured their heart and soul into these vehicles. >> that's right. >> reporter: you guys are representing them on the final flight. >> i think that's where i feel the most pressure, to be able to represent them the way they deserve to be represented, and finish out the program on a high note with a successful mission, and be able to thank them all afterwards ideally. >> reporter: would you say the
shuttle program then has been a success? >> i think at times it is the -- i hate to use the cliche, but sometimes it's been the rodney dangerfield of the space program over the years but the amount of payload it can take and bring back, seven people on top of that, you know, where else have we seen that? >> we want to wrap it up, you can head back to the airlock. >> it was a defines moment, it was a successful program. we essentially have command of lower orbit. so much so we set the ground for for the xhempl providers that will come. i'd like to think the stage is set to go beyond, which is where nasa belongs. >> reporter: what do you think will go through your heads when you call wheels stop. >> you're calling wheels stop, not just for you, the orbiter and the crew, but i think that moment will really be a defining
moment for a lot of people. it will be at that moment when it's finally over you'll be able to exhale, take a breath, understand the significance of the moment and it will probably take a while to get me out of the shuttle, but i'm bound and determined to be the last one out. i mentioned that we are supposed to see history tomorrow, weather permitting sudden see our john zarrella? those are the jackets cnn gives us to cover hurricane. i know it's not a hurricane bearing down, but you have some flaes weather that doesn't look too good. >> reporter: it is tropical moisture. this was a tropical system that came out of the caribbean, so i guess it's appropriate that i'm wearing the red rain jacket. we just had a heck of a storm blow through here with thunder and lightning. no wind, fortunately, but heavy rain, and they're expecting
moran that. nasa is trying to roll back the rss that encases the shuttle. they have to roll that back in advance of the launch. that's supposed to happen about 2:00, but they started moving it up earlier before the weather came in, they couldn't do that, so they're waiting for a window of opportunity, and then, of course, the next big milestone will be tanking in the overnight hours when they have on to load the liquid hydrogen and oxygen, but no, the weather does not look good at all for a launch tomorrow. saturday and sunday looking a bit better, so we might have a couple extra days here in florida waiting for this liftoff. t.j.? >> history is coming one way or another in the next day or so. >> reporter: yes, it is. >> good to see you as always. and be sure to join or john zarrello for our special
coverage friday, we think, we hope at 10:00 a.m., right here on cnn. but we'll keep you updated. also, up next, a tabloid accused of hacking into the phones of murder victims and celebrities has just announced it is closing. richard quest with the new details. he is next. does that in one daily dose.pt new citracal slow release... continuously releases calcium plus d for the efficient absorption my body needs. citracal.
hacking into phones of murder victims, celebrities and -- a shocking development here. remind our viewers just how long this tabloid has been around and how big a deal it really is. >> the tabloid has been around for more than 160 years. it is britain's biggest-selling sunday newspaper. it says it's the largest english-speaking newspaper in the world but what started out as a celebrities hacking scandal rapidly turned into a scandal when they hacked into a murdered girl's voicemail. then a revelation they were hacking into bomb victims from 7/7, and now the revelation that they've been hacking into soldiers' voicemail from those fighting or killed in afghanistan and iraq. so finally the statement from
james murdoch, the son of rupert murdoch, saying if allegations are true, it is inhuman that the paper and the company had failed toss to the bottom of repeated wrongdoing. what it says here is wrongdoers turned a good newsroom into bad. this it won't carry any advertising, but the money from subscriptions will go to good causes, and it will be the last edition. >> richard, just because the end of "news of the world" doesn't necessarily mean the end of the investigation or scandal? >> oh, there are two investigations. one into phone hacking scandal. documents have been revealed showing the newspaper paid the police either for tips or
whatever. on top of that there's whole questions of civil litigation. no, this is not going away. why they have chosen to close the newspaper will be the interesting question, was it on moral grounds alone or commercial grounds? this was a brand that was destroyed. >> all right. richard quest, we appreciate you, as always. thank you so much. we're getting close to the bottom of the hour here on this afternoon edition of the "cnn newsroom." we're going to turn to your harry potter fans. we know there's a lot of you. a big moment for harry potter fans right now. the final installment. the last harry potter movie. we're going to take you live to the red carpet premiere in london. that is next. it's water from the drinking fountain at the mall. [ male announcer ] great tasting tap water can now come from any faucet anywhere. introducing the brita bottle with the filter inside.
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there is it, folks, this is the last movie in the hole harry potter franchise, all right? there is a big premiere happening in london right now. "harry potter and the deathly hallows" people are going nuts. they're dressed up. we have seen this time and time again. our becky anderson is live for us on the red carpet, talking to fans about this new movie. becky, can you help me? school me a bit. what movie is this? up to movie number 27 or something? which one is this? >> reporter: this is part 2 of the last movie, which makes a series of eight movies in what has been a multibillion dollar movie franchise. $6.5 billion. it's quite unbelievable. this is as big and as bold as
i've ever seen. i've got people here, 8,500 people here in trafalgar square. the roads are closed off some have been here since monday, camping out to get a glimpse of the cast of what is the last movie in this franchise. it is quite remarkable. the weather has been predictably unpredictable. 2:00 damping their spirits. this is tom feldman, a.k.a.draco malfoy. >> i'm not sure i ever envisioned this, but we're ending in grand style, clearly. >> reporter: you finished filming in fact a year ago, i guess you're trying to move on. you can't really when you have a night like tonight. >> everybody's been saying what is this line -- we've been looking forward to this. this is kind of like closing night. i can see it getting emotional. >> reporter: if you had one
endearing image, what would it being? >> endearing memories, i met most of the adult cast as 11 years old. so -- it was weird becoming more and more shy of them the more i realized how big these guys are. but it's been great learning they're exceptionally normal and funny people. >> reporter: will you miss draco? >> yes, i'm firing spells every night in my bedroom. it's sad to leave a character behind. >> reporter: i'm going to let you go. it's a long walk down this red carpet this evening. we're hoping, of course, to speak to the other members of the cast, daniel and emma doing the rounds as we speak, and h e hopefully j.k. rowling. the numbers are just ridiculous. $6.5 billion as a movie
franchise, as something we possibly won't ever seen again. many of the crowd here don't remember life without harry potter or hot warts, and as the cast walk the red carpet for the last time, do remember this is a movie, a magical movie that will continue to move through the generations, the very last of the harry potter series. back to you. all right. thank you for schooling me on harry potter. becky, good to see you as always. we'll check in with her again with all the madness. but you can check in with us with larry king. you can go behind the scenes. he has your all-access pass to never before seen footage, plus interviewing with the film's three young stars. don't miss the special hosted by larry king, sin night 8:00 eastern. that's right here on cnn. up next, a deadly grizzly bear attack at yellowstone national park. those details are next. woman: saving for our child's college fund was getting expensive.
:34 past the hour, to give you a look at some of the stories making headlines. casey anthony will be walking out of jail in a matter of days. you remember? it wasn't too long ago she was looking at life in prison and the death penalty despite receiving the maximum sentence of four years in jail today, an additional $4,000 in fines for lying to the police, she will actually be released next wednesday after the judge factored in time served and
credit for good behavior. president obama made a surprise appearance just moments ago after a crucial meeting with congressional leaders. he called today's talks constructive, but said no breakthroughs were reached. he announced he would be meeting with et leaders again on succeed. the president has signaled a willingness to include reductions in entitlements including social security and medicare as a broad agreement to cut up to $4 trillion over the next decade. tax spending and tax reform and defense spending are on the table. a man was killed by a grizzly bear yesterday dorgd to the national park service. he was hiking with his wife when she surprised a female bear with her cubs. it was an apparent attempt to defend her cubs. this is the first bear-caused
human fa at a time in yellowstone since 1986, though trails and back-country camp sites have been closed unit further notice. a suspect has been arrested in connection with a theft of a 1965 picasso pencil drawing that's worth over $200,000, according to the "san francisco chronicle." the draw is a original that's no bigger than a standard piece of paper. it was stolen from the weinstein gallery on tuesday. this footage is showing apparently the man walking out, walking down the street, holding the drawing. talking about the report that uncovered one of the largest cheating scandals in u.s. history. what is the fallout from this huge cheating bust? we will take you there next.
we are learning more now about the cheating sandal that's rocked the atlanta public schools. the interim superintendent errol is discussing the report at a special meeting. the state investigation found that as many as 178 teachers and principals at nearly 50 schools in atlanta we are involved in perhaps the largest cheating scandal in u.s. history. right now there could be criminal charges pending, and davis promises that none of the educators will teach in the district again carl, hello to you, i hope you can hear me. >> the plan was to outline a
plan, so to speak. we have errol, davis. following this massive cheating scandal. he's presentsed to the board some suggestions on exactly how to do that. his suggestions including some tenets i have for you, one of them internal audits. if anybody starts complaining about ethics, the internal audits would go directly to the board of education. if crtc scores suddenly rise, then that would trigger, according to his new plan, a mechanism to review and certify those scores. they also want to survey employees to eliminate the culture of intimidation that allowed this cheating scandal to happen. bun other thing he mentioned, to give students that were harmed,
the reremedial education they missed. one other thing before we let you go, what is this talk about the possibility of criminal charges? what is the update there? who could possibly be charged criminally in this case? >> reporter: you know, it wasn't something that t.j., but there was a pretty strong implication made he's said these 178 principals and teachers would not be in front of the kids again, and something he implied today -- take a listen. >> those who have cheated our children or permitted the children to be cheated, either knowingly our unknowingly will have forfeited their right to remain in our system. >> reporter: one other thing he said, t.j., culture will always trump strategy, so whatever the
strategy was in atlanta public schools, they're going to be in the -- a superintendent wants to make sure that the culture -- is eliminated. >> carl, we appreciate you, as always. we're coming up on :41 past the hour here now. britain's royal newlyweds, a big hit in canada. we'll take you live there, but we'll see shortly if they're also going to be a big hit in california. the report is next. hmmm, you can't do that. but you can do this. bengay pain relief + massage with penetrating nubs plus the powerful pain relief of bengay. love the nubs!
we have a little treat for you now. we're total this final harry potter movie, in london as we speak, our becky anderson is standing by with one of the biggest stars of that movie. becky, you take it away. >> reporter: absolutely, one of the biggest stars of the harry potter franchise a multibillion dollar franchise. this is part 2 of the last movie, the last of eight, of course, i have emma watson here with me. what a remarkable turnout. >> it's unbelievable. i was told that when the premiere was going to be in
trafalgar square, and i thought it might be difficult to fill, but that's not true. it's absolutely packed. >> the roads around here have been locked off, what are your feelings tonight? this has been an awfully long time. >> it's really hard to try to takes in. it's overwhelming to try to describe how i feel. you know, this has been -- i've spent more than half my life playing this role and being this character, and it's so sad that it's come to an end. i'm also aware i probably will never see anything like this in my lifetime. >> reporter: i won't. i've never seen a red carpet event like this. it's three quarters of a mile long. there's over 8,000 people here. it's incredible. >> reporter: what is next? >> just i feel like i just graduated from the tough eest,
best film school in the world. i'm propel now to try to put everything i've learned into practice and just keep doing good work. >> reporter: thank you very much. who designed the dress? >> this is oscar de la renta. >> reporter: she looks marvelous. >> thank you. >> reporter: enjoy the movie. >> thank you. >> reporter: some of the cast hasn't seen the movie yet. i have, and i've got to say it is a roller coaster of a ride, but if there's to be a best movie for me, this one would be the best of the lot. it's in 3-d. good over evil, love t. whatever you want, all the right things when you get it in that back to you guys. i can hardly hear you. >> that's all right. you're making me want to watch this movie. we appreciate you jumping in front of the camera for us and grabbing one of the biggest stars, the final installment
coming out. the premiere is over in london. the royals have taking over canada, but how will they be received in california? we are checking in with our royal correspondent, next. as a manager, my team counts on me to stay focused. so i take one a day men's 50+ advantage. it's the only complete multivitamin with ginkgo to support memory and concentration. plus it supports heart health. [ bat cracks ] that's a hit. one a day men's.
tomorrow before heading to california for a three-day tour. and our max foster is live in calgary. hello to you and a lot of our viewers want to know haven't they been in canada long enough. come on down. time to come to the u.s. >> reporter: i know, not long now. they are in cowboy country, of course and when they arrive here, t.j., they will be given white hats, it's a tradition, welcoming ceremony, if you like, and we've also got the same white hats so there you go. been told i have to do this. this evening they will go and see some stampede events. you're laughing. >> a little bit. >> reporter: stampede events. you'll see them throwing a barrel into the back of a chuckwagon and see them looking at a lassoing demonstration and riding bulls as well, a very, very colorful even and in the morning they will launch the stampede parade. a very colorful end to the end of this canadian tour for them, t.j. >> i would assume it would be rude of them not to go through all of that, because they might not want to be, i don't know,
caught looking like you do right now in the hat. it's a good look for you. i don't want to say it's not. >> reporter: i thought i pulled it off. i think that's unfair. they are going to wear the whole thing as well, by the way, jeans, cowboy boots. they won't wear a suit jacket. >> oh, wow. okay. when they wrap up, then they are headed to california. now, when are they expected there, and what are they expected to do in cali? >> reporter: well, afternoon california time they will arrive, and there's a whole series of events, and it's going to be great sort of picture story really. on saturday night one of the highlights, a big red carpet event. it's full rocks for the duchess, so she will look fabulous on the red carpet, no doubt meeting lots of stars on the way. on the saturday morning there will be a polo match. prince william will play out there in santa barbara and the duchess will present the trophy hopefully to her husband and they are also visiting skid row,
a them to of the tour and meeting veterans of kfg as well. a busy weekend. >> max, give you a lot of credit, my man. you're right. you pulled off that hat just fine. max foster with us on the tour with the royals. good to see you, max. we'll talk to you again, soon and to our viewers you can find out more about how max is doing on his whirlwind tour across canada by visiting the website cnn.com. a behind-the-scenes look at a it's like covering a royal tour, eating lobster sandwiches with william and catherine and the entourage that surrounds them. getting close to the top of the hour now. listen to this. can you imagine this, a cancer patient given less than a month to lived, saved not by an organ donor but an organ grown from his own cells. the fascinating procedure that could save countless lives. that's coming up. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities,
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did i explain that all right. >> you did. i think i can go now. >> i need some details here. what organ are we talking about here? >> the trachea. >> okay. >> that's the tube you breathe in air. it takes this -- the tube takes the air down into your lungs, so this is a 36-year-old man who was dying of cancer from the trachea, and so he had this huge tumor on his trachea, and doctors did everything they could. they said, look, see that green thing, that's a tumor. all of that green is a tumor so as can you see it's quite large. he said we need to cut off that section of your trachea and give you one from a cadaver, but you know what? it's going to take a long time. there's a long line of people waiting for that, and you'll die before you get it so we'll make a new one. they used plastic. they made him a new trachea out of plastic, but the problem was that they just put it in his body. his body really wouldn't accept it. it wouldn't really work so what they did is they coasted that plastic trachea that you're looking at right now from his own stem cells. took stem cells from the bone
marrow, coat it had, paint it had basically and put it in him and the body thought that it was him and the vessels starting growing into it, if you can sort of picture that, and it works. >> you trick the body a bit. >> the body thought oh, look, this is us. >> how long did it take to grow, the whole process take? >> didn't take that long. you take the bone, take the cells out of the bone marrow, and you just sort of paint them on and surgically put it in him. they watched him. this happened a month ago, almost exactly, and they watched him in the hospital, watched him for a while and he's being discharged. >> okay. so if we are hearing this is successful, i assume they didn't roll the dice and get lucky here, so this apparently works. can everybody line up for this now? >> it would be really wonderful if this really worked because trachea cancer really tough because by the time you catch it there's not a whole lot you can do. they will watch this guy and see how he does and they will do a stud we 10, 12 people -- 10, 20 people to see how they do, and if everyone does well, this may really become sort of standard practice to do for patients who
need it. >> how much time would they need to know, okay, this works? will they have to watch him for years? >> you know, that's a good question. first of all, it wouldn't be just him. they would want to do a study with several dozen people before they would know, and they would want to watch them for at least a while to make sure they didn't have some kind of reaction to it or whatever. >> okay is this just -- i mean, i'm -- i'm amazed here, but this has widespread implications now, and won't we start doing things like this? i'm sure it's not as simple as it sounds but it does sound so promising. >> it does sound promising and when you think about the people who die every day waiting for an organ, you would think wouldn't it be great to create them out of plastic. the trachea is a pretty good place to start, pretty basic, like a tube. it's not like making a heart which is all sorts of parts and pumps and whatever built into it, but the hope is that this is the first baby step towards constructing new organs, but, again, it is a baby step. you know, this is not going to cure-all these problems tomorrow, but it's -- it's a
step on the way. >> what else do we know about this patient? do we know age, race, background. >> 36, from africa, from eritrea, and he got this -- this whole effort to build him this new trachea, it came from doctors at harvard in boston. doctors in london and doctors in sweden, so this was a real international effort to try to give this guy a plastic trachea. >> great stuff today. very promising, but that's our big "i." elizabeth our medical correspondent joining us today. good to see you as always. >> good to see us. >> for more on the procedure check out the facebook page of one randi kaye, there she is, again on facebook, and we're coming up on the top of the hour here on cnn. as we start this new hour, i want to show you how four years has now turned into six days. orlando, florida, casey anthony's day of reckoning. as you know by now, anthony was acquitted of murdering her 2-year-old daughter caylee, but convicted on four counts of lying to investigators. four misdemeanor counts which
today, just before sentencing, the defense tried to reduce to one. well, the judge, bevel inperry, refuse that had request and handed down the maximum for each of those counts. >> i will sentence you to one year in the orange county jail imposing a $1,000 fine on each count, all four counts to run consecutive to each other giving you credit for the time that you previously served. >> okay. it gets a little complicated after that. yes, he gave her the max on the counts she was convicted of, but still she's getting out in six days. let me put the math together for you. she has been locked up for almost three years, but inmates get extra credit for good behavior, so in casey's case
that apparently worked out to more than 400 days. she's now set for release july 13th. that is six days from today. now after all of that, she better keep her lawyers though on speed dial, and this is why. a woman named zenaida fernandez gonzalez, the name casey gave to the nonexistent nan who was supposedly had kidnapped caylee, she's suing for defamation. also the state of florida wants case toe repay the cost of investigating caylee's disappearance and death. also, a private firm called texas equusearch is continuing a suit to recoup more than $100,000 it spent to search for caylee in july of 2008. cnn's martin savage was in court for casey's sentencing. he is there for us in orlando, and my, my, my, martin. what a difference 48 hours makes. >> reporter: oh, it definitely did, t.j. take a look at casey anthony herself, the way we saw her
demeanor and physical appearance change in that 48 hours. today she shows up in court. she's very talkative. she's got a smile on her face. she's very relaxed, and her hair is down, and that's a striking image because her hair had been up tight. it had been in a pony tail. it had been in a bun, and that had been the very conservative image that all of us had seen for the six weeks that this trial had been ongoing, but now that she knows what the verdict, is a whole different change. as you say, the judge threw the book, but the book really wasn't that big that he could throw. he's now got it down to four misdemeanors essentially. tried to get the max on all of those, but as you pointed out there, the time that's been served, the -- the good behavior, the gametime which is something unique to florida. that's something else, and then also it comes into a very difficult equation is they check with the department of corrections and see, well, what's the availability in the jail because there are other more, well, i guess now they would say dangerous criminals coming in, so all of that came
together. she gets out on next wednesday, and it could be one minute after midnight. it does not have to be sort of during business hours given all the concern about her security and keeping public safety in mind, they may take her out of there without much fanfare at all, t.j. >> martin, let's turn to another issue that still needs to be resolved. i believe it's going on right now. the judge in this case did not want to release the names of the jurors in the case. of course, we know there's a lot of public interest and media outlets would like to get ahold of the names because they would hike to get the interviews. now it's possible the media outlets are making a plea for getting the names released. >> right. they are. just by listening to the testimony that's being given and listening to the judge as he makes his comments, the judge does not seem willing or desirous to want to do that at all. he says, look, ever since this case has been going on, he can't even walk around without television cameras all over the place trying to follow him. he does not want that for these jurors, you know.
the anonymity of a juror is considered to be one of the vital parts of this whole legal process here, and as you remember, once the verdict was made, the jurors we anticipated we were going to hear from them in a news conference, it is their choice. they don't have to speak, and they all said, no, they don't want to speak. it's clear that given the -- well, the highly emotional nature of the reaction to this verdict, many of them fear for their own safety, and the judge appears to sympathize with that attitude, no matter what the media would like. >> all right. martin, get back to us when the judge does make a decision, if one does come down here shortly. martin, we appreciate it as always. thanks so much. >> about four minutes past the hour now. we take a switch to washington, d.c. we still don't have any breakthroughs in the debt talks, but the important part is we don't have a breakdown either and that's a big deal, these talks going on today between president obama and leaders of congress over ways to reduce america's borrowing binge and thus clear the way for an increase in borrowing authority. you may have seen live at the top of the last hour the
president describing today's white house meeting as constructive and saying a followup is already planned. >> what we decided was that staffs, as well as leadership, will be working during the weekend and that i will reconvene congressional leaders here on sunday with the expectation that at that point the parties will at least know where each other's bottom lines are and will hopefully be in a position to then start engaging in the hard bargaining that's necessary to get a deal done. >> now the president is said to be pushing for a much bigger deal than was first contemplated, maybe $1 trillion in spending cuts and tax reforms with medicare, medicaid and social security still on the table. taxes remain the sticking point here. republicans don't want to raise taxes at all. democrats say close loopholes and ending certain breaks and deductions are necessary. treasury says a hike in the debt
ceiling also is necessary no later than august 2nd, or we've got a problem. well, other stories we are keeping an eye on this hour. a lawyer for dominique strauss-kahn tells cnn his client will not accept any plea bargain, and he won't plead guilty to anything in the sex crimes case against him. the former head of the international monetary fund is charged with sexual abuse and attempted rape of a new york hotel maid. his legal team met with prosecutors yesterday, a week after credibility questions about the accuser put the case on some shaky ground. no word yet if any plea deal was offered. we turn now to georgia where a special board of education meeting is taking place to deal with a systemwide cheating scandal that's rocked the atlanta public school system. a state investigation found that as many as 178 too muchers in nearly 50 schools were involved in a large-scale cheating scandal. criminal charges are possible. teachers are accused of changing answered on standardized tests.
a former school superintendent beverly hall is accused overlooking the conduct. the u.s. department of education released a statement calling this, quote, an unfortunate incident. also, a man hiking with his wife in yellowstone national park was attacked and killed by a grizzly bear wednesday morning. according to the national park service, the couple apparently startled a female bear with her cubs. it's believed the bear attacked the man to try to defend those cubs. this is the first bear-caused human fatality in the park since 1986. all trails and back country campsites have been closed indefinitely. also a shocker in the british hacking scandal. the british tabloid "news of the world" will shut down after sunday's issue. its owner, news international, is telling cnn the development follows accusations that the tabloid hacked into phone messages of murder and terror victims, celebrities and politicians. british police say they have identified nearly 4,000 potential victims of illegal
eaves dropping by a private investigator working for "news of the world." this is a 168-year-old paper and the paper is owned by robert mur duck who owns the "wall street journal" as well as fox news. casey anthony gets the maximum sentence for her lies, so how does a maximum sentence translate into her being a free woman in a matter of days? we explain next. mornings, give or take, is all we humans get. we spend them on treadmills. we spend them in traffic. and if we get lucky, really lucky, it dawns on us to go spend them in a world where a simple sunrise can still be magic. twenty-five thousand mornings. make sure some of them are pure michigan. your trip begins at michigan.org.
away a free woman. this is just the latest stunning twist in this case. this morning the judge gave her the maximum now for all the lies she told investigators sentencing her to a total of four years in jail and a $4,000 in fines. keep in mind, she gets credit now for time she's already served in jailed. the court did the math and says anthony will now be released july 13th. that is next wednesday, and now we're also hearing from two jurors who had a hand in freeing casey anthony. juror number 3, jennifer ford, revealed why they couldn't find her guilty for caylee's death. >> how did she die? if you're going to charge someone with murder, don't you know how they killed someone or why they might have killed something or have something, where, when, why, how? those were important questions. they were not answered. >> well, juror number 2 spoke out anonymously saying, quote, everybody agreed we were going
fully on evidence. she goes on i swear to god i wish we had more evidence to put her away, i really do, but it just wasn't there. let me bring in holly hughes. misdemeanor counts, four misdemeanor counts. with misdemeanors they don't get the max. the judge going with the max. what was he saying to us? >> what he's saying is the lies that you told cost this county probably hundreds of thousands of dollars, man hour powers, and let's face it, t.j., they could have been out looking for other missing children, and that's what he's upset about. typically when we see a charge of lying to law enforcement officer, it's because some guy gets over for smoking or for speeding. he knows he got an old warrant for smoking speed and he pops and lies and gives his power's name. that's typically false information, right? >> yeah. >> that's what we get all the time, a misdemeanor, a little probation, be on your way. don't use your brother's name. this lie and these series of lies caused the orange county
investigators, the fbi, there were tons of law enforcement agencies involved in this, and there was a missing child, so we thought. >> yeah. >> then her attorney gets up in opening and said she was never missing, just kidding, which is essentially what he's saying. >> but is the judge saying in this, you know what? i'm trying to give her everything i can give her because -- he knew she was about to walk out of there pretty soon. was he trying to get her as much jail time as he could. >> honestly i think that he's doing what he believes is called for in the situation. let's face t.remember bird man who flipped off jeff ashton like last week. he got six days for raising his finger in court. i mean, seriously! think about it. this is a judge who has already established on the record he's tough. the lady who hollered out when they were picking a jury, she got a couple of days in jail just for opening her mouth, so when you really think about the magnitude of what casey anthony did, the lies she told and the resources she took away from true missing children.
>> yeah. >> oh, yeah, these are the kind of things that deserve the maximum. >> okay. you know what? to the director, can you re-rack that video of her walking in. i don't have that down here, but looking at it, but i can't help but ask. what did that say to you when you saw that woman walk into the courtroom today, everybody just went crazy and started talking about this. what did it say to you when you laid eyes on her? >> all right. it says to me that now that her lies have worked and fooled this jury, now she doesn't have to put on a show anymore. there's not 12 people in the box judging her. the entire trial, what did we see? >> was it all a show? >> are you kidding me? we know -- she's a convicted liar. her attorney stood up in opening and said, yes, she sees a big fat liar, didn't kill her kid but she's a big fat liar. that's their opening. here's the deal. she walks in today and doesn't have to trick anybody anymore, doesn't have to play to a crowd. during the trial when they are trying to distance her from that image, from that trampy, vampy pictures that we saw, there's no
makeup and the hair is pulled back very severely and the prominent ears are out and she's looking all, you know, down in the dumps and oh, poor me, woe is me. not smiling. this morning when nobody is watching that matters, out she comes with -- and she sat there the whole time and played with that hair, the whole time. >> wasn't she just relieved in the woman's life was on the line a couple days, could it be that she's relieved? >> it could be, but when you're dealing with somebody with sociopathic tendencies, it's about being invisible. the lies worked. it worked. she's relieved. i mean, come on, wouldn't you be, i mean, seriously? if i was facing the death penalty, i would have been puking on the table, let's face it, you know. she's done. she's relieved, but she also knows she don't have to put an act on for the jury anymore. now she can play to the media. >> ten seconds, nothing legally keeps her from making money now on her story. >> nothing at all, and she will do it. >> all right. holly hughes, we've had you throughout the case and probably
not done with you yet. probably another twist or turn will happen in the next six days. >> probably. >> appreciate you as always. >> thanks. coming up, the end of the nasa space shuttle program also means the end of a career for a lot of people. from a rocket scientist to a t-shirt maker, tomorrow's historic shuttle launch kind of bittersweet. we'll explain. there's another way to help eliminate litter box dust: purina tidy cats. tidy cats premium line of litters now works harder on dust. and our improved formulas neutralize odors better than ever in multiple-cat homes. so it's easier to keep your house smelling just the way you want it. purina tidy cats. keep your home smelling like home.
18 minutes past the hour now. give you a look at stories making headlines. time running out for a convicted murderer from mexico who has set off an international legal and diplomatic battle. humberto garcia is scheduled to die by lethal injection tonight. he was convicted of raping and murdering a 16-year-old girl in
san antonio 27 years ago, but the obama administration is pushing to delay garcia's execution because he was not informed of his right to contact the mexican consulate when he was arrested. now, the u.s. supreme court is considering an appeal in his case. texas governor rick perry could also step in. and take a look at this. this look familiar? this is the running of the bulls in pamplona, spain. i'll never understand. today is just day one of the festivities with hundreds trying to outrun a raging bull, and not just one, several raging bulls. luckily just a few people were injured and hospitalized, just a few. this is considered a safe start to this dangerous 400-year tradition which has injured thousands over the years and killed 15 people since 1924. and another live picture. you know what they are all hanging out for here? this is the end of an era, the harry potter era. the world premiere of the
eighth -- do i have it right, the eighth movie, i believe, in this whole series is premiering. "harry potter and the deathly hallows, part 2," the last one. all gathered there in london right now. a lot of avid fans. they have been waiting in line in some cases for up to two days to be a part of this big moment and a part of movie and harry potter history. turning to another bit of history now. we are less than 24 hours away from witnessing history, what we think is going to be history. this is a live look at the space shuttle "atlantis," supposed to take off tomorrow in what would be the final shuttle flight, but we've got some weather issues. it's florida. it happens, and they will have another couple of possibilities on saturday and sunday if they miss tomorrow's launch date, but still, right now, we're told only a 30% chance that the rain and the weather will cooperate for tomorrow, but along with all the excitement that's surrounding this final launch,
there's some sadness as well. our brooke baldwin met a couple whose livelihood could be blasting off right after this final launch. >> through the decades brenda and jerry mulberry marked major life milestones with the launches of the space shuttle. >> we watched the launch of sts one together from the titan complex when i was 21 years old. >> reporter: match made in space heaven. >> yeah. >> reporter: from one of their first dates, to brenda opening up her own t-shirt shop, space shirts, two miles down the road from kenity space center, and right now her business is booming. but with the launch of the 135th and final space shuttle mission, jerry is marking a different kind of memory. >> i started in april of '81. >> reporter: '81, so you worked from '81 until -- >> april of this year. with the program shutting down, you know, everybody got cut
back, and our department got cut back a little earlier than some of the others, so it was time to move on. >> reporter: 30 years to the month jerry was laid off. he's one of 7,000 workers at kennedy space center alone who are already jobless or soon will be. it's eerily familiar to the last time this space coast saw manned space flight at a standstill. that was after the last apollo mission in 1975. six years before the launch of the first space shuttle. this time around, jerry says the job outlook is better. >> there's a barrier which is going to build a business jet in the -- right at melbourne airport. they will do their final assembly there, so it's a little different now >> reporter: while this area is steeped in space, tourism officials say space tourism makes up just 5% of all the tourism here now. beaches, cruise ships and the visitors center will still bring
in the tourists, but that doesn't take the sting out for someone who just lost his dream job. what's worse, the loss of the space shuttle era, or the loss of nasa family? >> good question. i think it's -- it really goes together. there's a big tradition out there that you get a picture signed, and -- and, you know, you get that, that's it, so it does bother you. it's like when you give your badge in for that last time. it gets to you. >> reporter: for now jerry is helping his wife sell shirts and souvenirs to tourists in town from all around the world. no matter what happens, it will be a bittersweet chapter for a couple who has watched and hoped and loved 134 times, and now they wait for their next
mission. >> so we're going to keep printing, and he's going to go find another job and, you know, i mean, i love him to death, but he's a rocket scientist, you know, so -- and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to print t-shirts. >> reporter: brooke baldwin, cnn, kennedy space center. >> you can be sure to join our brooke baldwin and john zarella and our anderson cooper for special coverage of the final shuttle flight. it begins tomorrow at 10:00 eastern right here on cnn. again, we hope the weather will permit that final launch. well, we are counting down to that launch, and we also are counting up the billions and billions of dollars taxpayers have poured into the program. skyrocketing deficits we all have now, we're asking ali velshi and richard quest if it's time to get out of the space business. that's today's "q&a."
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we're here together in the cnn newsroom around the world. hello, richard. >> hello, ali. today we are more than around the world. we're out of this world. each thursday ali and i come in to you to talk business, travel, innovation, and today it's travel with a difference, all the way into space. >> that's right, richard. with the space shuttle program in the united states winding down, we're wondering about the investment, billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars go to space exploration, not just in the united states, but around the world. should governments continue to spend on space exploration? richard, i'll let you go first. you've got 60 seconds. >> should government continue to
spend on space? why, yes, and a resounding yes. there are few occasions in the history of man where we have actually gone backwards in scientific development, when concorde disappeared, supersonic travel was no longer, the first time in aviation we had gone backwards. and now we're about to make a similar misstep with the ending of the shuttle program. how different it is from the 1960s and kennedy. we will land man on the moon and bring him back to earth. that had vision. it had imagination. it even gave rise to great horizons for the future, and incidentally, one of the most famous split infintives of all, to boldly go from star trek. no, the future is very small-minded when we start thinking about the dollars it costs and the money we spend because we go to these places, we go there because we can.
and after this we won't. >> richard, i have to say we don't compare our notes, but, unfortunately, we're on exactly the same side on this one. give me my 60 seconds. governments have got to make decisions today about things that you say may not see fruition or bring value for decades in the space programs, it is are those things. the focus needs to change. government should do the things that are not economically viable or safe enough for the private sector, like, for instance, richard going deeper into space. this business of sending astronauts and cargo to places like the spate station, that's being handed over to private players, and around the world there is this temptation to forgo or to scale back on space programs because of these tight budgets, but the gains, as you have said, to technology and hoimt have and will continue to outstrip the costs. governments should remain committed to the visionary
long-term goals that don't yet justify private investments. governments can take the risks that companies won't. the private sector can and will get in when it makes sense but only government, richard, can truly push the boundaries of the final frontier. we agree. >> this is very worrying, very worrying. >> yes. >> when we are both in agreement, and not only that, we're in agreement "the economist" which i find even more worrying. >> there are differences between us, and they will become abundantly clear right now thanks to the voice. hello, voice. >> good afternoon, gentlemen. let's get this thing off the launchpad. here's question number one. how many vehicles were launched into space last year? is it a, 28, b, 45, c, 59, or d, 70? >> ali. 58, c. >> incorrect, richard.
>> 45: incorrect. try again, mr. develop shy. a, 28. >> incorrect yet again. >> okay, richard. this is actually the one i was going to go for the first time because of space vehicles, 70. >> that is correct. there were 70 vehicles successfully launched into space in 2010. there were also four launches that failed. russia led the way with 30 successful missions. the u.s. and china each had 15. on to question number two. the soviet space agency also built a reusable shuttle for space travel. how many flights did it make? is it a, zero, b, 1, c, 3 or d, 7? richard. >> i think it made zero. >> incorrect. >> ali? >> i'm going for three because
it's reusable, so you'd have to have more than one to prove that it worked. >> incorrect. >> richard, that it made -- this was the other one, it made one flight. >> that is correct, richard. it made one successful flight. it was unmanned, and made a successful remote landing after two orbits and 206 minutes in space. the program ran out of money shortly after, and the shuttle that flew was later damaged in a roof collapse at the launch site. on to question number three >> i guess it wasn't all that reusable. according to nasa how high do you have to go before you reach space? is it a, 60 miles, b, 80 miles, c, 75 miles, or d, 100 miles? richard. >> 70 miles. >> incorrect. ali? >> 75 miles.
>> that is correct. >> i'm on the board. >> nasa says it's 75 miles or 122 kilometers. that's their re-entry altitude. others do say 100 kilometers or 62 miles is the boundary of space, but according to nasa it's 75. and, unfortunately, for you, mr. develop svelshi wins the ro >> how does it feel winning getting the right answer rather than because there's no other incorrect answers available? >> a win is a win is a win. >> keep the topics coming on our blog, cnn.com/qmb and cn cnn.com/ali. tell us what you want to talk about next. richard, see you next week. >> see you next week.
all right. we are hearing, you're seeing a live picture of shuttle "atlantis" having some weather problems. we don't know if it will be able to take off tomorrow, but now we're hearing there's a possible lightning strike near the launchpad. this word coming to us from nasa that it's possible is and they are checking this out, that lightning may have struck about a third of a mile or less from
that launchpad. now, there are no indications at this time of any problems this lightning could have caused, but still, they need to go in and check it out and need to check out the shuttle, the launchpad and all the ground support and equipment and make sure that everything is okay, but, still, they haven't been able to do a thorough inspection of all that stuff yet because they continue to have this band of thunderstorms that's causing all kinds of issues right now and kind of causing some delation in what they are trying to do. also, as you know, the shuttle is supposed to take off tomorrow for its historic final flight of the entire shuttle program, but it has only a 30% chance because of weather that they will be able to take off tomorrow, so weather causing some fits right now for this historic last launch of space shuttle "atlantis." we'll keep an eye on this for you. we turn now to really a ground breaking and shocking story today out of great britain where the british tabloid at the center of that phone hacking scandal is closing its doors after sunday's issue. this is "news of the world," we're talking about.
one of theest and best-selling newspapers in britain. the dramatic announcement today follows accusations that the paper illegally eaves dropped on the phone messages of murder an terror victims, politicians and celebrities. michael holmes is here with the details in our "globe trekking" today. put it into perspective how big a deal this is. >> it's a big deal. "news of the world" has been around for 168 years. got a rearedship of 3 million, nearly 3 million, 1.8 million, a readership of 7 million and sells 1.8 million. it's a stalwart of the british tabloid newspaper side of things. i've worked as a correspondent out of london from '86 to '91 and this newspaper every sunday is like which scandal will it break now? whose life will it destroy now? politicians and sports stars and getting called out for their little picadillos. this phone hacking scandal is the thing that's brought them
down. yeah, you can say while they are being contrite and closing it down, to end it, it's a business decision, really is. >> even so, maybe the newspaper is going to go away, this tabloid. this investigation is going to be going on for some time. >> that's part of the reason why people are saying that rupert murdoch decided to close it which is the name "news of the world" will be dragged through the courts and the mud for months to come. there's talk there will be arrests coming up over this, inquiry will continue, as you say and the feeling is that news corp did not want the name sullied even further by keeping it in existence, and there's speculation already that his other tabloid newspaper there in london, "the sun," automatically will all of a sudden have a sunday edition, "the sun" on sunday so he'll keep it. >> people are talking, every sunday, like a different life destroyed, different celebrity, different politician, but is this how they did business? it seems like this goes back a decade. >> they are not the only ones either.
there's several other equally out there tabloids in england, too, and there are in this country, too, for that matter. all around the world you've got that tabloid thing. the british press had that ferocity though, that old fleet street tabloid mentality gunning for people if they figured that they needed wringing down a little bit, and that could be from a politician to a sports star or movie star or whatever, and sometimes to real "b" level people. that's where i really hated the "news of the world" reading, destroy someone's life by exposing something pretty minor by embarrassing somebody who wasn't "a" list or anything like that. a really tacky newspaper in its day but murdoch has other businesses to worry about, the "wall street journal," "the new york post" and fox and all of that, and newspapers apparently account for less than 15% of his overall revenue, so it's not a big deal, but it's an historic newspaper so a lot of people are going -- a lot of eyebrows were raised when they decided to shut
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president obama and vice president biden met with congressional leaders today to discuss the crucial subject of deficit reduction and the debt ceiling. the president called the meeting constructive and announced more talks are coming on sunday. president seeking $3 trillion to $1 trillion in cuts and medicare, medicaid and social security is all on the table. cutting social security is always a pretty touchy subject,
more than just a retirement program. benefits also paid to the disabled as well as the spouse, a child or depend ant parent of a worker who has died. millions depend on it, but an interesting argument is being made by a local minority. what if we just get rid of social security all together, and that question now should social security be abolished is the question for today's stream team. the founder of the memphis tea party joins me now and also roger hickey, the co-director of the campaign for america's future. mark, let me start with you. get rid of it all together? does social security and has it not over time served a lot of good in this country? >> well, t.j., it has, but let's be clear. i'm in my 50s now, and this year for the first time i think we're going to spend $29 billion more than taxes actually pay for social security. we're sitting on $2.5 trillion of ious from the treasury for social security since the monies have been used for other used in the treasury and in the budget
so i think we need to over time move towards privatization and i think it's a practical matter. certainly a person of my age looking at 65 and where we are has no real likelihood of having that money be paid, and indeed the other part we deal with is this notion of continuing to raise the age limit. we have a demographic problem in this country as well. we have particularly when you look at communities, african-americans, roughly five-year age difference between whites and whites less than hispanics so the notes of fairness comes in, and i suspect that moving towards a rational release of the traditional system towards a private system will be a much better solution. >> roger, let me bring you in here now, and i think a lot of people make the same arguments, and i think a lot of people are scared that social security is in such dire straits that people like mark and younger folks will not see that money. are you -- do you argue with some of those assertions that he just made, or do you think social security is a good program that needs to continue the way it is?
>> i'm sorry. i think mark missed the bush administration when the republicans really tried hard to privatize social security, and they went around the country and talked to people and lo and behold most people love social security. most people thought the idea of privatizing social security was a terrible idea, and that's why it never got anywhere in the congress, even though bush pushed it a lot. now, it's true that -- that some republicans still want to do that. that's their secret wish, but for the average american, including tea party members, i would say, social security is a major, major important program for their retirement, and the idea of getting rid of it, all you have to do is think about the recent financial crash, and if we had privatized social security under bush, imagine what people's incomes after that crash would have been? they would have lost everything just like the smart guys did in the wall street. >> with all due -- >> it's really a bad idea.
it's an idea rejected by the american people. we're debating whether or not to cut social security benefits a little bit, but most people don't even like the idea of cutting social security benefits. >> mark, i'll go ahead and let you respond and i'll come back to you and let you wrap it up, roger, but it sounded like you wanted to say something. >> chile is a very good example. albeit a very smaller country. annuities, people didn't lose any money as a result of crash. there are fundamental ways you can structure the investments to ensure no downside and a reasonable upside and secondly i think people are much more educated today than even in the bush years, eight, ten years ago. they recognize the huge deficits we have and the promise of ious only in the current social security system. i'm not suggesting a radical departure but over time educating people to the realities is a necessary and prudent step. >> and to that point, roger, and i'll let you wrap it up. those realities, a lot of politicians are wanting to educate the public about the realities of this system but at the same time you say you want
to change social security and immediately you're going to get public rejection of that idea. >> yeah. why is that, t.j.? because most people depend on social security in their retirement years. the pension system really doesn't function anymore, and so social security is what keeps a lot of people out of poverty, and rightly so. we've paid into it all of our lives. it's a -- it's a reliable system. it's not in trouble financially for a couple of decades. we can make simple fixes to social security, but -- but it should not be used as a way to get ahold of that trust fund money to use for deficit reduction. that would be a really destructive thing to do, and it would shatter the consensus that americans have had since the new deal that we really ought to make sure that people are not destitute in their old age. >> roger hickey and mark skoda, wonder if this debate is happening in washington at the white house right now because we're told social security is on the tail right now in these
deficit and debt talks. gentlemen, good to see you. know we'll see you again. thanks so much. as we get close to the top of the hour. let's say hello. looky, looky who we have in atlanta with us. our deputy political director paul steinhauser, got our political update. >> always good to see you. mitt romney, running for u.s. president, so why is he in great britain? what's going on with that? well, he was over there today meeting with the british prime minister. how did we find out about that? he told us on twitter. take a look at this, gave us a picture in his tweet meeting with the british prime minister over there. also yesterday had a fund-raiser. listen, this isn't the first television candidate go to britain, john mccain, barack obama and rudy giuliani all did this last time around so it beefs up their foreign policy chops and helps them with fund-raising, a lot of americans who live in britain have a lot of money and want to spend some of it on candidate. new campaign ads, the ad wars in iowa heating up, iowa so important, the first caucus state. michele bachmann up with a new ad. what does she do in that ad, reminds people in iowa guess
where i was born, iowa. how is that, t.j. >> a pretty good strategy. one political campaign having to apologize to the other, and bachmann is in the middle of this one. >> getting the apology. tim pawlenty, a good friend of his, an adviser of his, talking about bachmann saying good things about her but said she's got a little sex appeal. well, what did he do apologizing saying i made a respect and disrespectful to my friend congresswoman bachmann. >> i have to apologize it. bet these not the last time that comes up somewhere in this campaign. paul, good to see you. as always, thanks so much, buddy. getting close, like i said, to the top of the hour, and the next political update from the best political team on television is an hour away, but coming up next, the single most important person in the three-year long casey anthony ordeal has probably gotten the least attention. tell you about it in my xyz.
well, 2-year-old caylee marie anthony used to love the song "you are my sunshine." she would sing it with her granddad who she called joe joe. her grandmother says she was a baby that never woke up crying. she always woke up laughing. now, unlike a lot of other kids caylee loved vegetables, especially green beans. go figure. caylee was also a movie buff, "sleeping beauty" and "101
dalmatians" among her favorites, and she would also say good night to the stars when she went to bed at night. well, it seems like we know just about everything there is to know about casey anthony's life. we will only know so much about 2-year-old caylee's life because in part we only have two years of her life to work with. caylee didn't get a chance to turn 3 years old or 4 years old or 5 years old. on august 9th of next month she's not going to get a chance to turn 6 years old. during this whole case, this whole ordeal, so many people have asked me why is nobody talking about caylee? well, just like so many other things in this case, including her life and also a lot of people now say her mother's jail sentence simply didn't have enough time, and that'sy xyz for today. the newsroom continues now with edie hill. it's all yours. >> thank you, hi, everyone. i'm edie hill. in today for brke